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[greenhorn]

Paralelna kompresija?


Kako prosim?

[Malossi]

jeee sem jst tut lih hotu odpret ta post, pa si me prehitu! Ja tut jst bi rad kej slišal o tem...

[ixi]

Paralelna kompresija?


Kako prosim?

Paralelna oz. vzporedna kompresija se izvaja na sledeč način, no vsaj jaz jo delam tako :wink: , da npr. grupiram obdeleane bobne, nato imam v mixu eno grupo dinamičnih in drugo grupo pa full skompresiram in ja nato dodam v mix po občutku! Stem ohranim dinamiko na bobnih in dobim večji power Vedno se ne obnese :smt035 pri kakih jazz projektih to glih ni priporočljivo!!! pri rokerjih ali pa metalcih pa dobro dene :smt023 !
Isto lahko narediš z bassom,....
Za paralelno kompresijo ni potrben nikakršen poseben compressor

Pa veliko sreče pri ekspirimentiranju :smt102

[Matej Grginic]

Priporocljivo je precekirat "plugin induced" latency na obeh grupah. V primeru razlik te fazne razlike pokopljejo...

[ixi]

Priporocljivo je precekirat "plugin induced" latency na obeh grupah. V primeru razlik te fazne razlike pokopljejo...

AFKORS

[soundtrap]

Pa še to za tiste ki tega ne vedo:

Ni se mi dalo pisat zato sem kar en članek pastiral:

The Motown 1960's Exciting Compressor

With the Motown mix approach there were problems. If you wanted the lyrics to be heard you had to use a lot of compression on the vocal so that the the softer words could still be heard over the higher-level music. In addition you boosted the "presence range" (around 5 kHz) with an equalizer. The only problem with this is that it took the life & natural dynamics out of the vocal.

Lawrence Horn came up with a brilliant idea. He took the vocal and split the signal so that it when to 2 console channels. Before the vocal signal went to the second channel, it went through a compressor. Now he had two channels of the vocal - one compressed and one uncompressed. On the uncompressed vocal he added very little with the equalizer and he added the reverb. On the compressed channel, he compressed the h**l out of it and added a ton of high-frequency equalization. What he would do is bring up the "natural" channel to full level to get the basic natural sound on the vocal. On the other compressed and equalized channel, he brought this up just enough to add excitement and presence to the vocal sound.

The result was nothing less than amazing. In the mix the vocal sounded very natural and bright. None of the music ever "stepped on" the vocal and you could hear each and every syllable in the lyrics. The vocal never got lost.

Using The Exciting Compressor.

I don't know if anyone at Aphex knew anything about this technique - BUT - the purpose of their product and the older Motown technique seen basically the same. As you try this technique out you will find it works for other instruments as well. Often the frequency of EQ needs to be changed for the instrument. The vocal works well with tons of 5kHz to 8 kHz added to the "exciting compressor;" guitars work better with 3 kHz - 5 kHz and bass guitars work better with 800 hZ to 1.5 kHz.

Uporabaljma že neki časa in sem zeloo zadovoljen.

Lp

[satoration]

Jep, to ti je basically paralelna kompresija... Pa mogoce je fajn imet en tak ultra hiter kompresor... (meni se za te namene slabse obnesejo tile kloni retro analognih kompresorjev - bolje je uporabit kaj hitrega - npr. PSP Mastering kompresor, SSL 4000 je tudi presneto hiter, pa UAD Neve komresor tudi lepo mecka - medtem ko mi 1176 ne zveni prevec dobro za te namene...) Fora hitrega kompresorja je, da ohranis transiente samo na originalnem soundu, pokompresiran pa ti samo doda barvo, brez nepotrebnega dvigovanja peakov...

Pa se ena finta - ni vezana na paralelno kompresijo - uporaba dveh faderjev z nizjim signalom, namesto enega z visokim za signale z veliko energije (kick, bass) - trik opise Chris Lord-Alge v tem clanku:

http://www.eqmag.com...storycode=15616

[soundtrap]

Sej jaz uporabljam waves ssl 4000 kompresor in moram rečt da dela fantatično za ta trik. Ful je hiter. To rabim in lepo zveni.

BTW, zanimiv članek.

Tnx
LP

[rotation]

Omenjana je bila tudi varianta ko das kak hiter kompresor (npr ssl 4000) na aux. Kar se tice lepljenja to ni ravno perla, a baje super deluje ko zelis dodati barvo kompresorja in narediti track glasnejsi.
Ce bo kdo to probal naj prosim poroca kako se slisi.

[wi-etrex]

Ker ravno o kompresorjih, naj omenim enega:OtiumFX Compadre-Beatpuncher, nisem ga se dosti testiral(sem si ga ravnokar naloziu), sam naj bi biu res neverjetno dober se posebi z kicke in izdavi res hud sound. Ce ga je gdo kej uporabljau nej kej Poroca.

[satoration]

Omenjana je bila tudi varianta ko das kak hiter kompresor (npr ssl 4000) na aux. Kar se tice lepljenja to ni ravno perla, a baje super deluje ko zelis dodati barvo kompresorja in narediti track glasnejsi.
Ce bo kdo to probal naj prosim poroca kako se slisi.

Jaz na tak nacin ves cas delam paralelno kompresijo (kadar jo) - na send posljem signal, fx kanal pa ima gor hiter kompresor + kak eq - potem ta fx kanal oz. "return" dodajam kot vsak drug efekt... Zveni pa dobro - odvisno od materiala in potrebe... Sound naredi bolj "masten", a lahko tudi hitro zavede v pretiravanje. Za akusticno muziko mi je tako srednje uporabno - za rock, pop & sorodno pa je bomba...

Se ena opomba za vse navdusene pralelno kompresirajoce - ne pozabite, da tudi release dela sound!

Kar pravis za SSL4000 velja za moj okus za vecino kompresorjev. A Waves SSL4000, UAD Neve 33609 in LA-2A se zelo lepo obnesejo na busih.

[soundtrap]

Jaz zelo rad in pogosto uporabljam gco-1
Dam 2 kicka punch+hi end in jih stisnem s tem+ paralelno kompresiram se dodatno z ssl4000

Bom pa sporbal se OtiumFX Compadre-Beatpuncher

[greenhorn]

Se pravi da sta dve možnosti.

1. Dva treka en skompresiran en pa ne...

2. Comp. na aux


Al je fora sam v tem da, če maš dva treka skompresirani trek kompresiraš preko Aux?



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[greenhorn]

Priporocljivo je precekirat "plugin induced" latency na obeh grupah. V primeru razlik te fazne razlike pokopljejo...

Kje pa to počekiraš?